Roextended 4.4 [1.52 only]

[Tomsun66]

@Arayas: in the little nameless town between Hopa and Trabzon and also in Trabzon i recognize massive drop of FPS, between the cities around 55-60 in these both cities 19-22. Is that due to extrem high detailing level? in the other cities normally i recognize a drop to 35-45 fps. Sure there is a drop the more details are to display (so a drop to 2/3 is acceptable and normally not really recognizable, a drop to 1/3 or less is really strong recognizable). Yes of course i have everything maxed out, but on the other hand not the weakest equipment. #do you recognize also a drop to 1/3 of your normal fps in that areas?

[Arayas]

I've choosed long time ago to make "real" cities with details and that is a cost on FPS.
if you prefer this


over this


roextended is not your pick.

Off course, FPS drops are from multiple factors....useless to make a list here.

[Tomsun66]

of course ETS2 is not CS GO, and as i mentioned i usually have everything maxed out because i like that eye candy . My question was leading towards if the reduction to nearly one third of normal fps is "normal", as i discovered in most of the other towns of ROEX, SR, PM mainly more or less 2/3 of the fps in the game.

Sometimes it could only be one small thing causing such decrease in fps, i saw this last time in Barcelona from PM in the area of the container harbour.

My assumption is as long as SCS will not heavily modify Prism3D towards multithreading we have to live with this situation.

[Arayas]

Well, i have almost 2 years sience i didnt play the game other than testing. All my profiles are level zero. I cannot support this game, a driving simulation, with a traffic density close to zero and limitation all over. They update photo mode and sunsets. Driving a truck IRL and this...its a joke. Securing the cargo, driving program resting versus sleeping program, all the facts a real trucking its about...are missed by this game.
So, i'll stick to mapping and yes, some cities are "heavy" than other and that was a choice.

[clear F1]

@Arayas
When I didn't know you at all.

(The EU economy ...)
(Poor map ...)
Etc.

It was said somewhere.
Since it is the result of changing to a detailed one, there is no problem that the FPS drops a little.

I'm not sure if my English is correct.

[Tapir]

I prefer also detailled cities. No problem for me that fps drops.

[Arayas]

@Arayas: in the little nameless town between Hopa and Trabzon and also in Trabzon i recognize massive drop of FPS, between the cities around 55-60 in these both cities 19-22. Is that due to extrem high detailing level? in the other cities normally i recognize a drop to 35-45 fps. Sure there is a drop the more details are to display (so a drop to 2/3 is acceptable and normally not really recognizable, a drop to 1/3 or less is really strong recognizable). Yes of course i have everything maxed out, but on the other hand not the weakest equipment. #do you recognize also a drop to 1/3 of your normal fps in that areas?

go to 10 minutes from start, you will see Trabzon, right upper corner you have the FPS count, custom truck and 4K recording. So...

[tantalus]

I prefer also detailled cities. No problem for me that fps drops.

Fps dropping from 60 to 50-45 isnt a problem.
The problem is when fps drops to 20-25... now THAT is completely unacceptable, and for people who like to enjoy videogames,
like me, constant 60fps is essential. I still didnt try the last update on ROEX but i really hope that those fps drops we had before 1.41 are gone or barely noticeable,
or im afraid i will need to avoid ROEX from now on.

And again, i admire the work of Arayas in ROEX. It is just, there is no need to overcharge scenary with high resolution textures and things like that. In fact, keeping in mind the game engine, not a single modder should do that.
You can make detailed cities without fps drops. Its done everywhere in promods and other rebuild themed mods. And they look fantastic.
As fantastic as the work done by Arayas in ROEX. And you dont need to use high resolution assets or whatever to make em look good.

In my opinion is a waste of potential to try to make things look better than they should, when in a game like ETS2 is not necessary lol, when you can use that time to improve performance.

So im giving a chance to 1.41 next week, to see if something improved since 1.40, but if not, im afraid im gonna need to avoid ROEX from now on.
I will need a lot of time to adapt, since im used to ROEX but i guess i reached my limit talking about fps drops. If they would not break my immersion to the game so much i wouldnt mind. Sadly its not the case.

In any case, good job Arayas, and as others said, if you dont mind having heavy fps drops this is a great mod.

[tantalus]

go to 10 minutes from start, you will see Trabzon, right upper corner you have the FPS count, custom truck and 4K recording. So...

Arayas, by now you should know that the massive fps drop thing occurs mostly at night.. or not anymore?

[Arayas]

In any case, good job Arayas, and as others said, if you dont mind having heavy fps drops this is a great mod.

I like how you praise great no-FPS DROPS like Promods with great (old) cities maded with cartoon textures, and bashing Roextended right after as a heavy bad map. You have a video one post above of someone i dont know, with traffic mod, custom truck and 4k streaming. JUST ONE EXAMPLE, i can give many more. A proof you talk shit just because.
I've maded a video prooving without any doubt SCS screwed night driving BAD in 1.40. Off course, brainless people, just echo-shells of Promods discord, got shit from that video, because they dont know to understand the conclusion of the video.
In 3.1 only i worked days to change lights with standard ones, change model by model the distance views and so on. The map is not perfect, i am not perfect, but there is no reson to paint this map as you did...a "heavy shit map".

Maybe you play on a toaster, maybe you overestimate your PC limits, maybe you didnt find that thin line between performance and quality. Or maybe you are just mean for a reason.
And keep in mind, the guy with the video used 2.8, a step back from 3.1, and i still dont see your problem.