Roextended Bugs - report here

[tantalus]

Guys, please calm down. I have heavy FPS drops in some areas of RoExtended/Turkey Lite, too, but also in Iberia. I don't think it is a specific RoExtended or Turkey problem, but I think it is a poorly optimized game engine problem. Maybe I have to change some startup parameters. The other solution would be to buy new hardware, but that's not an option for now. The work around for me is to avoid those heavy FPS drop places and enjoy the many, many places, including within RoExtended, Turkey and Iberia, that have no heavy FPS drops.

I dont have any single fps drop on Ibera (In fact in my opinion is really well optimized, truth to be told, it should, there is not a single secondary road.. it is the most lazy DLC so far). Or almost any other zone, only in roextended. Im using right now 104 mods.
Sure there is always some specific places that will hiccup or suffer but compared with the extension of rextended, they are minimal.
Including southern region, great steppe, volga map, rusmap, promods, malta map, etc, etc.
But i checked and indeed, when night hours the fps drop is insane for some reason, indeed could be related to the new lightning system, but what i wish to know is why roextended is affected and the rest of the game isnt.
It is just making me nuts.

And because i want to figure it out, so we can all have this frikkin problem behind us and enjoy roextended that is an amazing addition to ets2.

The game engine is not badly optimized, it is just what it is. It reached its peak a long time ago. SCS is just doing attrezzo half-baked updates to keep the fanboys happy, because sadly the majority
of the playerbase of this game, apparently is composed by non brained players who dont even care if the game looks like a frikkin game from 1995. And it wont matter how many lighting "revamps" they do
until they actually upgrade the game engine in first place to allow things like multi-core or proper AA. Like Arayas, im very dissapointed with SCS at this point, and i can tell you without remorse that i dont spend a
single dime anymore on DLCS since ages ago. I can get them for free by other means, if you know what i mean. And no, i dont regret it.

And NO, the solution is not buying new hardware, dont go there. You are making the mistake of thinking like all those fanboys (in fact i know who you are, but i dont want to create polemic here),
that cant understand the game engine is pretty limited and already saturated, if you have fps problems now they are not going to be fixed by upgrading your hardware lol.
It wont matter if you have the best computer of the world, you will still have the exact same problems.

Its like the other day in the promods forum, i said that the shadow casting in this game is terrible, that shadows are ridiculous. One guy said "shadows are fine, they look fantastic".
This guy probably never played more than one game in his life, because if pixelated, flickering shadows are "fine"... i dont know what to say anymore lol. And yup, this guy was one of those fanboys.

Was coming here to report a crash, but after this book i wrote, i completely forgot the city . I was going to post the game log but i will wait to check what city i was driving first.

EDIT: Heres the log, im not sure if this sector is modified by roextended or the problem is coming from another mod, but i always get a crash in the same spot.
The city i was driving to was Mukachevo, coming from Cluj-Napoca

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00:01:44.492 : Sector force finished.
00:04:05.189 : <ERROR> [fs] Failed to open file '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmd' in the read_only mode.
00:04:05.189 : <ERROR> [resource_task] Can not open '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmd'
00:04:05.189 : <ERROR> [fs] Failed to open file '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmg' in the read_only mode.
00:04:05.189 : <ERROR> [resource_task] Can not open '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmg'
00:04:05.205 : <ERROR> [model] Model descriptor '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmd' is malformed.
00:04:05.205 : <ERROR> [model] Model geometry '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmg' is malformed.
00:04:05.205 : <ERROR> [fs] Failed to open file '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmd' in the read_only mode.
00:04:05.205 : <ERROR> [ld] Failed to open '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmd'.
00:04:05.205 : <ERROR> d:\buildbot\slaves\win_slave\final_build_ets2_140_windows_bin_steam_x64\build\prism\src\models\model\model_template.cpp(628): ?cache_data_handler@model_template_u@prism@@UEAAXXZ: Failed to load model descriptor (.pmd) or model geometry (.pmg) for '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmg'.

[Arayas]

Failed to open file '/etrusan3d/mm/bins/tc01.pmd' in the read_only mode.

The pmd file is in the RC. First step: redownload the RC, it was a temporary first version for a few hours having more than 1MB, that's not good.

Second reason, you may have a possibility to overwrite Etrusan models by other map/patch/mod/workshop.

I will sort this up today if i can reproduce it.

Solution:
Subscribe to etrusan workshop and place his package above map.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 1681508949

[tantalus]

Hm, i dont understand, whats the RC? Road connection? what RC? i always use the last versions.. unless another one was released very recently.
But what road connection is used in there? im lost.

To reproducde it, you just need to pick a delivery that goes thru those cities i mentioned, since there is only one possible road that connect em.

Thanks, ima going to add the etrusan package to the modlist in the meantime so i can finish the delivery.

[Arayas]

RC is road connection. I already did a test in Sibiu about same error, no crash...

[kreti]

I put this message in the ROEX RC subforum too.

I have a crash when go from Taman to Kerch, at this point. I don't know if it is in ROEX-SR road conection or ROEX 2.9.5

crash ;[09/05/2021 11:26:30] (sec+0025+0004);100535;43.0044;17112.4;0.823417;-0.137454




00:03:14.631 : <ERROR> [model] Unknown look name '2' on model '/etrusan3d/jine/hrouda.pmd'
00:03:14.631 : <ERROR> [model] Invalid look index requested for model '/etrusan3d/jine/hrouda.pmd', probably a missing look?

This is my combo:

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0:00:52.634 : [mods] Active local mod PJ_Indo_Assets&Models1 (name: PJ Indo Map v2.7 Beta1 Assets & Models1, version: 2.7_B1, author: Septian_MR)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod PJ_Indo_Assets&Models2 (name: PJ Indo Map v2.7 Beta1 Assets & Models2, version: 2.7_B1, author: Septian_MR)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod PJ_Indo_Def&Map (name: PJ Indo Map v2.7 Beta1 Def & Map, version: 2.7_B1, author: Septian_MR)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod AfroMap 2.2 (name: AfroMap_2.2 (adjusted version), version: 2.2, author: LordHabaek)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod The Great Steppe-model-v2.0 (name: The Great Steppe - model, version: 2.0, author: 09_KZ)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod The Great Steppe-map-v2.0 (name: The Great Steppe - map, version: 2.0, author: 09_KZ)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod The Great Steppe-def-v2.0 (name: The Great Steppe - def, version: 2.0, author: 09_KZ)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod The_Great_Steppe_English_City_Names_Fix (name: The Great Steppe English City Names, version: 1.0, author: Wombat Trucker)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod sibirmap2.1.1.undersrm (name: SibirMap 2 UnderSRM-File, version: 2.1.1b, author: 10avoid)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod sibirmap2.1.1.model (name: SibirMap 2 ModelFile, version: 2.1.1b, author: 10avoid)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod sibirmap2.1.1.mapdef (name: SibirMap 2 MAP&DEF, version: 2.1.1b, author: 10avoid)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod SRmap_[Model2] (name: Southern Region map [Model2], version: 10.1, author: SimKA)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod SRmap_[Model1] (name: Southern Region map [Model1], version: 10.1, author: SimKA)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod SRmap_[Def and Map] (name: Southern Region map [Def and Map], version: 10.1, author: SimKA)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod SRmap_7.9.0_english_names (name: Southern Region English, version: 7.9.0, author: Fr8i, Dawid2849)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod volga_model (name: VolgaMap model, version: 1.2, author: Александр Нестеров)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod volga_map (name: VolgaMap map, version: 0.1, author: Александр Нестеров)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod volga_def (name: VolgaMap def, version: 1.2, author: Александр Нестеров)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod English_City_Names_for_Volga_Map (name: English City Names for Volga Map, version: 1.0, author: Sonicstrav)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod RusMap-def_v2.4.1 (name: RusMap-def_v2.4.1, version: 2.4.1, author: aldim@tor)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod promods-media-v255 (name: ProMods Media Package, version: 2.55, author: ProMods Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod promods-assets-v255 (name: ProMods Assets Package, version: 2.55, author: ProMods Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod promods-model3-v255 (name: ProMods Models Package 3, version: 2.55, author: ProMods Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod promods-model2-v255 (name: ProMods Models Package 2, version: 2.55, author: ProMods Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod promods-model1-v255 (name: ProMods Models Package 1, version: 2.55, author: ProMods Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod promods-map-v255 (name: ProMods Map Package, version: 2.55, author: ProMods Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod promods-def-st-v255 (name: ProMods Definition Package, version: 2.55, author: ProMods Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod promods-me-assets-v255a (name: ProMods Middle-East Add-on (Assets Package), version: 2.55a, author: Platypus)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod promods-me-defmap-v255a (name: ProMods Middle-East Add-on (Def & Map Package), version: 2.55a, author: Platypus)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod RedseaV1-2-2 (name: Red Sea Map, version: 1.2.2, author: TerraMaps Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod Project Balkans 5.1 - Assets (name: Project Balkans Assets Package, version: 5.1, author: Project Balkans Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod Project Balkans 5.1 - Map (name: Project Balkans Map Package, version: 5.1, author: Project Balkans Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod Project Balkans 5.1 - Def (name: Project Balkans Def Package, version: 5.1, author: Project Balkans Team)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod Project_Balkans_4.0_-_English_City_Names (name: Project Balkans English City Names, version: 4.0, author: Truckendoos)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod RusMap-model2_v2.4.1 (name: RusMap-model2_v2.4.1, version: 2.4.1, author: aldim@tor)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod RusMap-model_v2.4.1 (name: RusMap-model_v2.4.1, version: 2.4.1, author: aldim@tor)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod RusMap-map_v2.4.1 (name: RusMap Map_v2.4.1, version: 2.4.1, author: aldim@tor)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod City_translation_RusMap_1.9.1 (name: City translation for RusMap 1.9.x, version: 1.9.1, author: aldim@tor, wik412)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod PM252_RM2.4.0_roadconnection (name: ProMods 2.52 + RusMap 2.4.0 Road Connection, version: ETS2 1.40, author: aldimator, Sergey061, Vladzz-G, Dawid2849)
00:00:52.635 : [mods] Active local mod TM135LITE (name: Turkey Map 1.3.5 LITE [1.40], version: 1.40.x, author: Affluence, Okan Avci, Arayas, YKS team)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod TML135ME255RC (name: Turkey LITE 1.3.5 -MiddleEast2.55 RC, version: 1.40, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ROEXassets295 (name: 5.ROEX295assets, version: 2.9.5, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ROEXprefab295 (name: 4.ROEX295prefab, version: 2.9.5, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ROEX2model295 (name: 3.ROEX295model2, version: 2.9.5, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ROEX1model295 (name: 2.ROEX295model, version: 2.9.5, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ROEXdefmap295 (name: 1.ROEX295defmap, version: 2.9.5, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ROEXallPM255RC (name: ROEXall-Promods255RC, version: 2.9.5, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ROEX295SR10RC (name: ROEX295-S.Region 10 RC, version: 2.9, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ROEX295RusMap240RCv2 (name: ROEX295-RusMap 240RC v2, version: 2.9.5, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ENROEX (name: ROEX EN city names, version: 2.9, author: Arayas)
00:00:52.636 : [mods] Active local mod ULFIX140v3 (name: Universal light fix V3, version: 1.0, author: Arayas)

[BenganJ]

@kreti

I just drove from Taman all the way to Kerch and even passed it! No crash whatsoever!!!!


Check for possible updates!

[kreti]

Thanks @BenganJ,

I answer in the other thread viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2015&p=40394#p40394 so as not to repeat myself.

[Arayas]

I did some tests again and the problem is identifyed as an odd choice of the model creator.

In Roextended 2.9.5/2.6.5 are used Etrusan OLD models.
In Southern Region road connection are used NEW models

As a reasonable man i would think the new pack will include the old models and the "looks" for it.
But as model creator, Etrusan clearly doesnt understand how map making works because he decided to edit his models from 1.39 to 1.40 at core level.



Translation of the image:
1. hrouda.pmd had 3 "looks" (default, 2 and 3) now he erased 2 and 3 leaving just default one. All mappers using hrouda.pmd in their map before 1.40 pack will have errors like KRETI did : 00:03:14.631 : <ERROR> [model] Unknown look name '2' on model '/etrusan3d/jine/hrouda.pmd' and probably crash.
2. 77x15x1.pmd had one look (default) and he added 2 more (paint and metal) ERASING THE DEFAULT ONE! This is yet even more dangerous because this is a SIGN model (light pole) who is clearly crashing the map.

This is a very BAD situation for a mapper. If you use the old signs you have only DEFAULT LOOK. If you replace the pack with a new one, HOW to replace DEFAULT with PAINT or METAL, when editor is crashing not finding the DEFAULT look ?!?

I remember FLD decided to erase some of his old prefabs in his new package. That leaved us (me and Sergey, Probably Simka too) with a non-functional map editor. Eventualy i did a Hybrid FLD pack containing ALL prefabs.
I apreciate the time for making this models, but dont act like nobody used your pack before and simply erase things.

I will see how i will make a Hybrid Etrusan Pack from it to include it in the new RC with Southern Region.

[BenganJ]

@Arayas

Oh, I HATE this behavior from people supporting others with resource packs. BAH!
They probably aren't using their own stuff, but that's not an excuse!

EDIT: But WHY doesn't my game crash as others do?

[Arayas]

I dont know, i dont have crashes also. But some do. Do you want me to elaborate how bad this game is under 1.40?