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Re: World Background Maps

Post by clear F1 » June 4th, 2020, 10:59 am

@Arayas

Thank you for your work, which will make you tired.
Looks the same to me. However, I do not understand the meaning.
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by Arayas » June 4th, 2020, 11:37 am

If Promods switched projection, the new map with new projection should be shifted with old 1.27 background. And is not. I can asume they are under the old projection.
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Post by clear F1 » June 4th, 2020, 12:21 pm

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Re: World Background Maps

Post by Ronin » June 4th, 2020, 12:36 pm

@Clumsy
Thank you man. You may sometimes be silent, but if you say something then it is immediately spot on. :fan_1: :fan_1:
It all comes down to whether SCS has switched to a new map projection since version 1.30 / 1.31. And what Arayas has now shown this is not the case.
I hope that SCS can indeed clarify the question.
https://forum.scssoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=285766

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Re: World Background Maps

Post by 3rik » June 4th, 2020, 1:50 pm

Ah, what arayas has said changes a lot.
I guess what I remembered as SCS changing the background was just when they changed how it looked.
I thought that when they changed it they also updated it's projection.
I'll let mandelsoft know as well.
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by 3rik » June 4th, 2020, 3:20 pm

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this is implying that the background map in 1.37 is infact using the new projection, which would prove that bengans projection is wrong after all.
i have asked for confirmation just to be sure.
edit: bengan, did you get your paramaters from the climate.sii file mentioned?
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by BenganJ » June 4th, 2020, 3:31 pm

Just for the record! Max says this at the finish of his post.
so aside of local tweaks the projection of both games is (and most probably will be) lambert conical, which is overall best (preserving distances,
areas and shapes to good degree). its exact parameters are in environmental data (climate.sii)
In BOTH ETS2 and ATS I use Lambert Conical map projection with the parameters taken from climate.sii definition file. Go figure!

EDIT: It's even documented WAY BACK in this topic for those who can read!
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by 3rik » June 4th, 2020, 3:40 pm

BenganJ wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 3:31 pm
Just for the record! Max says this at the finish of his post.
so aside of local tweaks the projection of both games is (and most probably will be) lambert conical, which is overall best (preserving distances,
areas and shapes to good degree). its exact parameters are in environmental data (climate.sii)
In BOTH ETS2 and ATS I use Lambert Conical map projection with the parameters taken from climate.sii definition file. Go figure!

EDIT: It's even documented WAY BACK in this topic for those who can read!
well then why dosent it match up with the scs background?
it mostly matches in europe but he said that they warped europe when they changed the background, so central europe is technically still the old projection.
i dont want to point fingers here but someone, either you or scs, has made a mistake somewhere
edit: i remembered that you said that once, which is why i asked again. there are 120 pages here, i dont have the time to read through them all xD
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by BenganJ » June 4th, 2020, 3:49 pm

Can someone please render a background image using the parameters from the climate.sii file,
making it at least as big as it covers the most used maps today, i.e. RusMap, SRMap, Project
Turkey, TGS and Road to Aral?
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by 3rik » June 4th, 2020, 3:53 pm

BenganJ wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 3:49 pm
Can someone please render a background image using the parameters from the climate.sii file,
making it at least as big as it covers the most used maps today, i.e. RusMap, SRMap, Project
Turkey, TGS and Road to Aral?
ill do it if you tell me what program i should use :smile3:
(also, i have the base game unpacked but i cant find the climate.sii file, can you tell me where that is too?)
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