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Re: World Background Maps

Post by BenganJ » June 16th, 2020, 10:34 pm

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Interesting mate! I've heard about it, but NEVER had that phenomenon myself. Questions.
1. You have the SAT BG at the very TOP of Mod Manager?
2. And as you say Map alignment at Always North?
If you attempt to move the map up to the North Pole, it WILL flip, but that's obviously NOT
what you experience here. If you answer the two questions by 'Yes', then please, post your
latest game log after you have the phenomenon in place!
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by iMarbot » June 16th, 2020, 10:40 pm

BenganJ wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 10:34 pm
@iMarbot

Interesting mate! I've heard about it, but NEVER had that phenomenon myself. Questions.
1. You have the SAT BG at the very TOP of Mod Manager?
2. And as you say Map alignment at Always North?
If you attempt to move the map up to the North Pole, it WILL flip, but that's obviously NOT
what you experience here. If you answer the two questions by 'Yes', then please, post your
latest game log after you have the phenomenon in place!
Answer to both questions is yes. Game log: https://privatebin.net/?14f77891bb386e1 ... 6HrtvW4SFV

I did a bit more moving around the map and the map seems to think "North" (North pole) is roughly here

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Re: World Background Maps

Post by BenganJ » June 16th, 2020, 10:49 pm

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Mate, after I posted the answer I took a look at your image and tried to find you anywhere there.
Why? Because, "Always north" is what you get when you draw a line from where you are, the "center
of everything" to the North Pole. So, if you are somewhere out in the eastern part of ROS and have the
SAT BG centered where you are, you will have the North Pole straight upwards, but moving the center
of the SAT BG to UK you will get this circle type of movement. The exact same thing will also happen
when you are located in the center of Europe and move eastwards towards Japan. Think of the North
Pole always located strait upwards from the upper screen center.

EDIT: It has to do with the fact that the map projection used is on a cone with it's top right above the
North Pole. That is the reason you get this exaggerated circle type of movement!
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by iMarbot » June 16th, 2020, 10:53 pm

BenganJ wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 10:49 pm
@iMarbot

Mate, after I posted the answer I took a look at your image and tried to find you anywhere there.
Why? Because, "Always north" is what you get when you draw a line from where you are, the "center
of everything" to the North Pole. So, if you are somewhere out in the eastern part of ROS and have the
SAT BG centered where you are, you will have the North Pole straight upwards, but moving the center
of the SAT BG to UK you will get this circle type of movement. The exact same thing will also happen
when you are located in the center of Europe and move eastwards towards Japan. Think of the North
Pole always located strait upwards from the upper screen center.
What you describe is "North locked" not "Always North", I am pretty sure. Anyway here in ROS where I am it is even worse. (Map thinks "North" is real life East, towards that place in China that I sent you before)

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Re: World Background Maps

Post by BenganJ » June 16th, 2020, 11:00 pm

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Yes, that should not be the way to display the map. Question. As ROS has data very high up North,
do you get this phenomena without ROS too?
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by iMarbot » June 16th, 2020, 11:01 pm

BenganJ wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 11:00 pm
@iMarbot

Yes, that should not be the way to display the map. Question. As ROS has data very high up North,
do you get this phenomena without ROS too?
Here is a video of what I mean about location of North Pole, will test without ROS now.

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Re: World Background Maps

Post by BenganJ » June 16th, 2020, 11:04 pm

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Yep that fast flipping rotation you will get when too high up north!
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by iMarbot » June 16th, 2020, 11:15 pm

BenganJ wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 11:04 pm
@iMarbot

Yep that fast flipping rotation you will get when too high up north!
I removed ROS and now "Always North" and "North Locked" do not work at all. They both are identical to "Flat".

Edit: Here's a video showcasing that too.

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Re: World Background Maps

Post by BenganJ » June 16th, 2020, 11:24 pm

@iMarbot

Odd, very odd, as I would have been flooded with reports about this if this was
common, so please, to avoid the possibility of your profile been "corrupt" by now,
create a totally new profile with no mods, start it up and check if the three
alternatives of Map alignment works as supposed.
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Re: World Background Maps

Post by iMarbot » June 17th, 2020, 12:09 am

BenganJ wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 11:24 pm
@iMarbot

Odd, very odd, as I would have been flooded with reports about this if this was
common, so please, to avoid the possibility of your profile been "corrupt" by now,
create a totally new profile with no mods, start it up and check if the three
alternatives of Map alignment works as supposed.
I created a new profile (why it took so long to reply) and it works.

I guess you are right that my profile is corrupt which makes me really sad. I guess I will be spending the next few hours trying to see if I can fix it somehow :(
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